The guessing games can now finally end, as “Captain America: Brave New World” actor Giancarlo Esposito (“The Mandalorian”) has announced during the Marvel Studios’ presentation at San Diego Comic-Con that he’ll be playing Sidewinder in the new installment due out in theaters on February 14, 2025. Ending months of speculation about his Marvel casting.
Seth Voelker, aka Sidewinder, is the King of The Serpent Society. Which is a slightly more modern terrorist group from the pages of the Captain America comic books that mirrored H.Y.D.R.A. and had Madame Hydra, aka, among their ranks under the codename Viper and once attempted to take over the group entirely. The other main Serpent Society member in “Brave New World” includes Rosa Salazar’s Rachel Deighton, aka Diamondback, who eventually switches sides.
Another tidbit confirmed was, yes, the giant Celestial sticking out of the planet from “Eternals” is indeed made out of adamantium and could potentially have some sort of connection to the Wolverine/Weapon X Program coming in the future to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, alongside the “X-Men” reboot. The fight over the newly advanced mineral via Tiamut, similar to vibrainium, had been teased in the film’s first-look trailer.
This is likely why there was rampant speculation that Esposito’s character could be connected to the X-Men or a mutant himself.
One of the more compelling reasons to finally use The Serpent Society for Sam Wilson’s Captain American tenure is that it has an extremely deep bench of members, allowing for a steady stream of bad guys for him to throw hands against in future installments as it feels like “Brave New World” could be the start of Anthony Mackie’s trilogy.
Take the following with a pinch of salt, but some images that showed up recently on Reddit claim to reveal Red Hulk will indeed show up in Marvel’s “Captain America: Brave New World.” The unverified image seems to include what is most likely a crew wrap gift jacket (A common practice that cast/crew are gifted a memento for their time working on the production) with a giant monstrous red hand grabbing the iconic hero’s shield and could confirm the character is in the fourth installment. The anti-hero Hulk persona is best known as connected to Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross in both comics and the animated series “Agents of S.M.A.S.H.,” who is now played by Harrison Ford after taking over the role from the late William Hurt.
Red Hulk showing up in these upcoming movies isn’t some new revelation, surprise, or even considered a spoiler as Thunderbolt Ross, expected to be President Ross in both “Captain America 4” and “Thunderbolts,” nearly transformed into the red hulking brute in “Captain America: Civil War” as The Russo Brothers have mentioned that was an unused idea that was kicking around back when Hurt was still in the role. So, in theory, it was only a matter of time before Red Hulk would be showing up (An official set photo seen above teased Ross’ tattered clothing from a transformation) in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because that’s how these things work now. Ross is only one of many “Incredible Hulk” characters making their return such as Dr. Samuel Sterns and his daughter Betty, so having a Hulk underpinning story element is far from shocking. Ford stepped into the Thunderbolt Ross part, and there had been a longstanding expectation that they were bringing Ross back to ultimately make his jump to Red Hulk, a version of the Hulk where Ross has more control of his powers similar to Smart/Professor Hulk and Jennifer Walters/She-Hulk. Basically, giving Ross what he’s been ultimately pursuing with a military application of Dr. Bruce Banner’s power-set.
Also, it should be clear that if the Red Hulk nod is indeed part of a crew wrap gift Marvel Studios would have known this would have made its way online and likely wouldn’t be much of a spoiler as it’ll be all over promotional materials. Even if this would be earlier than they likely would have wanted. It’s worth mentioning there has been chatter that “Brave New World” is expected to be undergoing extensive reshoots, and all this could change depending on those new scenes being rewritten by Matthew Orton (“Moon Knight,” “Operation Finale”).
From a narrative standpoint, in the comics, there had been a bit of an arms race with various villains including The Leader (Tim Blake Nelson) and HYDRA (Serpent Society potentially replacing them as Madame Hydra’s other villainess persona Viper was part of that group) trying to weaponize the Hulk’s powers. The two baddies getting their hands on the Hulk tech is something I’ve been bringing up for years as a potential angle for their involvement in the film.
Then again, Thunderbolt Ross isn’t the only Red Hulk persona as his daughter Betty Ross (Liv Tyler) also obtains Hulk abilities and Betty ends up using the name Red She-Hulk, getting her own run of comics at Marvel.
Julius Onah directs with a cast that includes Anthony Mackie, Ford, Carl Lumbly, Danny Ramirez, Shira Haas, Rosa Salazar, wrestler Seth Rollins, Xosha Roquemore, Liv Tyler back as Betty Ross, and the aforementioned Tim Blake Nelson reprising his role as Gamma-boosted super-villain The Leader. The new sequel will see Mackie’s Sam Wilson taking on the cinematic Captain America mantle from Steve Rogers after the events of “The Falcon & The Winter Soldier” and the U.S. government’s failed attempt to replace him with Wyatt Russell‘s U.S. Agent. “Captain America: Brave New World” has a release date of February 14, 2025, and would mean that a trailer isn’t likely coming anytime soon with “Deadpool 3” being their main film project coming out in 2024.
Yesterday, it was reported by Deadline that Marvel’s fourth “Captain America” film, “Captain America: Brave New World,” would be undergoing further rewrites ahead of reshoots with the help of screenwriter Matthew Orton (“Operation Finale”), who had previously worked with Marvel Studios on “Moon Knight.”
Plot details are being kept under wraps but there is an expectation that an MCU version of the supervillain team The Serpent Society (previously used as a fake title for “Captain America: Civil War” and their involvement seemingly backed up in set photos) could be the antagonists of the action flick alongside Tim Blake Nelson’s The Leader. Harrison Ford had been recast as President “Thunderbolt” Ross after the death of William Hurt and could be either friend or foe to Sam Wilson.
Dalan Musson and Malcolm Spellman wrote the shooting version of the script with Julius Onah directing.
That additional filming is said to be taking place in the spring/summer of 2024 and will hit theaters on February 14, 2025. It’s important to point out that all MCU films have reshoots built into their budgets and nearly all projects undergo reshoots/pickups after they’ve wrapped principal photography.
More business-as-usual for the studio.
Also, while this isn’t a huge tidbit, “Thunderbolts” star Wyatt Russell (“The Falcon & The Winter Soldier”) while promoting his Apple TV+ series “Monarch: Legacy of Monsters” on the Happy Sad Confused podcast (via ThePlaylist) revealed that neither Harrison Ford (President Thunderbolt Ross) nor Daniel Bruhl (Zemo) would be appearing in the film but hasn’t read the MCU film’s script to know for sure.
“Daniel is not going to be it, [but] he could play a part in it. I don’t know. I haven’t read a script yet, but as of now, I’m not sure. Harrison’s in ‘Captain America 4,’ I think. I don’t know, I haven’t read a script, so I don’t know who exactly who is in it. I know Florence is in it, I know Sebastian’s in it. I know David Harbour is going to be in it. David Harbour is another guy who’s, like, so good. I love everything he does.”
We could theorize the actor is likely basing his knowledge of who is in the film based on the official concept art that announced the film’s character lineup such as Russell’s U.S. Agent. Then again, it might help if Russell had read the script before answering the question. It’s worth pointing out that “Thunderbolts” filming and “Captain America: Brave New World” reshoots are expected to overlap with each other leaving room for Ross/Zemo to appear.
“Thunderbolts” like a bunch of recent Marvel films have been undergoing rewrites ahead of their production and it remains to be seen if either President Ross or Zemo ultimately show up in the pic. However, it is worth mentioning that Zemo was a founding member of the team in the comics and there had been some assumptions given President Ross’ (Red Hulk is a Thunderbolts member in more recent incarnations of the roster in the comics) connection to Valentina Allegra de Fontaine established in other films that he could be showing up.
It was recently confirmed by Robert Kirkman (“The Walking Dead,” “Invincible”) on a YouTube video that his actor pal Steven Yeun (“Nope”) is set in the role of Sentry and had a costume fitting. The rest of the film’s cast includes Sebastian Stan (Bucky Barnes/White Wolf/Winter Soldier), Florence Pugh (Yelena Belova/Black Widow, David Harbour (Alexei Shostakov/Red Guardian), Hannah John-Kamen (Ghost), Julia Louis-Dreyfus (Valentina Allegra de Fontaine), and Olga Kurylenko (Taskmaster).
Filming on “Thunderbolts” is expected to begin in the new year once rewrites are completed and has a release date of July 25, 2025.
You can watch that full exchange on the Happy Sad Confused podcast below.
Yesterday, it was announced by Marvel/Disney that they would be shifting around their release dates for upcoming films. The main tidbits from these updates see “Deadpool 3” (only completed 50% of filming and resuming later this month) moving to July 26 taking a spot originally meant for “Captain America: Brave New World” (wrapped before the strike). Both “Captain America 4” and “Thunderbolts” would be moving out of 2024 entirely with new dates in 2025. This would make “Deadpool 3” the only feature film coming in 2024 and would overload audiences in 2025 with four releases.
These are the new dates for the upcoming slate of Marvel Studios feature film releases:
DEADPOOL 3 – July 26, 2024
CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD – February 14, 2025
FANTASTIC FOUR – May 2, 2025
THUNDERBOLTS – July 25, 2025
BLADE – November 7, 2025
AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY – May 1, 2026
AVENGERS: SECRET WARS – May 7, 2027
ARMOR WARS – TBA
SHANG-CH 2 – TBA
X-MEN REBOOT – TBA
“Thunderbolts,” “Fantastic Four,” and “Blade” have yet to start filming and we should be expecting some big casting news coming soon as the actors’ strike is resolved (pending membership ratification) and the casting process can now resume.
However, even with that July date for “Deadpool 3” now officially etched-in they have two fallback dates just in case the film needs more time to be completed given that normally films of this scale tend to take longer to be completed. Those include the film’s original date of September 6, 2024, and the former “Thunderbolts” date of December 20, 2024. The hope here is that Marvel Studios and director Shawn Levy won’t be rushing things as the film has only finished 50% of production (also would likely need reshoots/pickups after a round of editing).
This won’t be the last time Marvel shifts around these upcoming dates and we should be prepared for more shuffles in the future.